Great Twiddlebug Mystery"
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Epistemology of Betty Lou
the heck is up with Betty Lou?
arrogant hussy. First off, what's up with calling her friend
"Friend"? Is she too good for names? I know Roosevelt Franklin is a
long name, give it a whirl.
she's one step away from calling Sherlock a freaking moron, and then at the
end she says she's "thrilled at the fact that I had been there to listen
while Sherlock Hemlock, the world's greatest detective, solved perhaps his
sides much, Betty Lou?
of all, there is gonna be WAR here in the Book Club if you keep referring to
my girl Betty Lou as an arrogant hussy! She's just doing her best to tell a
story in the most simple way possible so that all the girls and boys at home
can follow along. Can you say, "Howdy, neighbor"? I thought so.
you can, but would you call a close friend "Friend," like to call
someone over? I would never say, "Oh, Friend, Friend, over
who's to say how close Betty Lou and Roosevelt are anyway? I mean, she clearly
didn't get invited to his birthday party.
I hadn't thought of that. What an amazingly awkward situation.
given how accident-prone the party turned out to be, it's a lucky escape for
I don't think you understand Betty Lou's personality like I do. Betty Lou's
concern over the trash in the yard doesn't stem from her feelings for her
friend, but rather her concern that things not be a "terrible mess."
She is mostly caught up in the mess because of her own personality disorders,
not due to empathy for Friend.
curious because a) she wants to be clear on what made such a terrible mess and
why, so that b) she can make sure that it gets cleaned up and doesn't happen
again, because c) she's a control freak, and also is d) nosy and e) the story
will make for good gossip next time she and Prairie Dawn get together.
anyone else having a hard time telling Prairie Dawn and Betty Lou apart? I
mean, standing next to each other they don't look alike. But how often do they
stand next to each other?
Lou's unwillingness to address Roosevelt Franklin by his name is odd. Perhaps
that's her way of being cold to him after he didn't invite her to the party.
Or, possibly, this isn't Roosevelt Franklin at all, but an early, wilder
Roosevelt without a name.
difference between Betty Lou and Prairie Dawn is that Betty has bangs, and
was around in 1969, singing the "Days of the Week" song. Betty must
have known his name.
was he called Roosevelt Franklin then, or was he just an Anything
was Roosevelt Franklin already. They call him Roosevelt Franklin, and he does
his "my first name first and my second name second" line.
yeah, Betty Lou is in error.
probably one of those people who calls everyone "Sweetheart" and
"Baby" because she can't be bothered to learn their names.
appreciate the physical description of the characters, but I actually remember
that. But their personalities were so nondescript, or they were just featured
so irregularly, I can't say, "Oh, remember the sketch where Prairie Dawn
did thus-and-so?" or "How about when Betty Lou did
seen a lot of stuff with Prairie Dawn, but I can only remember seeing Betty
Lou a handful of times. Maybe they're sisters separated at birth.
interesting that this whole book is about what evidence you need to establish
the truth of a proposition, and we've spent the entire discussion so far
trying to figure out whether Herry is Herry, whether Roosevelt Franklin is
Roosevelt Franklin, and which one is Betty Lou.
may be the most philosophically complicated discussion we've ever had.
I'm going to see your questions, and raise you one: How do we even know that
Betty Lou exists?
think Prairie Dawn and Betty Lou are just two different versions of the
little-girl Anything Muppet, who originally didn't have a consistent voice or
characterization. They were the Schrodinger's Cat of Sesame characters -- both
Prairie Dawn and Betty Lou at the same time.
they started doing the Sesame Street Pageant sketches, they discovered that
the Prairie Dawn character worked -- so the Betty/Prairie waveform collapsed,
and from then on we only had Prairie Dawn.
not only does Betty Lou not exist, but echoes from the collapsing waveform
rippled backwards through space-time, so in fact Betty Lou has never existed.
challenge you to prove otherwise.
you're saying even the original Betty Lou from before the collapse of the
waveform has ceased to exist? She existed in the original timeline, so
wouldn't there be more serious repercussions to the space/time/felt continuum?
perhaps Betty Lou is now both dead and alive at the same time. If the Betty
Lou from before the collapse were to travel in time to the present, she and
Prairie Dawn would negate each other's existence. Sesame Street would become a
black hole, and the rest of the world would be sucked into it.
the number of the day would be zero.
theses, but I think it's less complicated.
see "Psycho"? I suspect Betty Lou is rotting in a wheelchair in
someone's basement... probably "around the corner."
true! You guys are all whacked.
Lou and Prairie Dawn are distinct individuals. You chauvinists! This is an
outrage. Power to the sisters!
recognize the existence of an identifiable Prairie Dawn. Prairie Dawn is not
just don't recognize the existence of Betty Lou.
Lou is in a lot of Sesame books. SHE IS!
will grant you that. But was she on the show?
Lou existed on the show from the beginning. She was used mostly as one of many
Muppet girls, shared by various performers from Frank Oz to Fran Brill, from
Jerry Nelson to Marilyn Sokol.
appeared in "Hunt for Happiness," but she was called Helen
think the Sesame staff realized that Betty Lou was all over the place in the
books but not too much of a character on the show, so they gave her to Lisa
Buckley somewhere in the 90's during the New Character Explosion and made her
a doll character or something. (I've never seen her during those days.)
big difference between Prairie and Betty on the show is that Prairie has a
stronger personality. She's a true leader, always in charge of her own
projects, and often a little bossy and/or neurotic.
Lou never had that urge to lead. She's just the plain girl next door.
didn't have a consistent performer for over 20 years.
sometimes had a different name.
doesn't really have a personality.
the point where she finally got a performer and one character trait, nobody
can remember anything she did.
Lou does not exist. QED.
the question is: If Betty Lou doesn't exist, then why is "she"
supposedly narrating this book? Who is "Betty Lou" covering for?
I'll rescind my comments that Prairie and Betty are the same person, and I now
agree with Danny that Betty simply doesn't exist.
may in fact simply be a psychological projection from the other characters, a
la Fight Club.
this point, my own personal theory is that Betty Lou exists, but she has a
perpetual identity crisis.
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