Ernie vs Bert, Round Three

Published: February 3, 2003
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— Round 3 —

Mind Games

Here’s two classic Ernie and Bert sketches, circa the early-to-mid 70’s:

[ Ernie and Bert’s apartment. Ernie is looking at a big green letter Q as Bert enters. ]
Ernie


Hi, Bert!
Bert


Oh, hi, Ernie.
Ernie


Isn’t this a nice letter Q that I have here?
Bert


Oh, that’s what it is. Yeah, yeah, it’s nice.
Ernie


Yeah, see, it’s big and round there, and it’s got this little wiggly tail right there.
Bert


Right there.
Ernie


That’s how you can tell it’s a Q.
Bert


Yeah, it’s nice.
Ernie


Hey, Bert, you know what I have?
Bert


What?
Ernie


I have a very exciting game that we can play with this letter Q.
Bert


Oh, no, not me.
Ernie


You want to play an exciting game, Bert?
Bert


Nope. Not me.
Ernie


Oh, but this is a neat game.
Bert


Uh uh.
Ernie


You see, we can practice counting our numbers, and at the same time we’ll learn about the letter Q.
Bert


Ernie, you always trick me in these games, always.
Ernie


No, not this time, Bert. You see, this is how the game is played, see. I say One-Q — and I point to the letter Q. And then you say Two-Q — and you point to the letter Q. And it goes on like that.
Bert


Point, like that?
Ernie


That’s all there is to it.
Bert


That’s all, right?
Ernie


Mm hmm. It’s your kind of game, Bert.
Bert


That sounds kinda fun, actually. Okay. Do I start, or do you start?
Ernie


No, I’ll start. Okay. One-Q!
Bert


Uh, Two-Q!
Ernie


Three-Q!
Bert


Four-Q!
Ernie


Five-Q!
Bert


Six-Q!
Ernie


Seven-Q!
Bert


Eight-Q!
Ernie


Nine-Q!
Bert


Ten-Q!
Ernie


What’s that, Bert?
Bert


Ten-Q!
Ernie


I couldn’t hear you, Bert.
Bert


Ten-Q! Ten-Q! Ten-Q!
Ernie


You’re welcome, you’re welcome, you’re welcome, Bert!
[ Ernie laughs, and exits. Bert scratches his head. ]
Bert


I don’t get it.
[ Ernie and Bert finish watching a cartoon on TV about the number 10. ]
Ernie


(singing along) One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, niiiiiine, ten! Oh, that counting stuff, Bert, y’know, that counting stuff reminds me of a great game I know. Wanna play a little game?
Bert


Aw, no. Not another one of your meatball games, Ernie. No thanks.
Ernie


Oh, no, no, Bert. This is not a meatball game.
Bert


No?
Ernie


I promise, this is not a meatball game.
Bert


No tricks?
Ernie


No tricks. No, no.
Bert


All right.
Ernie


It goes like this, see. I say, I one the sandbox.
Bert


Yeah?
Ernie


And then you say, I two the sandbox.
Bert


Yeah…
Ernie


And then I say, I three the sandbox. And so on and so forth, and on and on and on and on and on, and on, like that. Wanna play?
Bert


Nah, it’s stupid.
Ernie


No, no. It’s not stupid.
Bert


Oh, all right.
Ernie


Okay. Goes like this. I was walking down the street the other day, and I saw a sandbox.
Bert


Huh.
Ernie


I one the sandbox.
Bert


Mm.
Ernie


Now you.
Bert


Oh, now. Okay. I two the sandbox.
Ernie


I three the sandbox.
Bert


I four the sandbox?
Ernie


I five the sandbox…
Bert


I six the sandbox!
Ernie


I seven the sandbox!
Bert


I eight the sandbox!
Ernie


You ate the sandbox?
[ Ernie laughs and puts his arm around Bert’s shoulder. ]
Ernie


How’d it taste, Bert?
Bert


Aww, no…
[ Ernie laughs. ]

Color Commentary:

Now, I have no idea if these jokes were original to Sesame Street, or if they were already common schoolyard tricks that Ernie just appropriated. All I know is that by the time I was in elementary school, both of these jokes were in pretty common use, and they worked, pretty much all the way through second grade.

So there’s two options here. One is that these were already old chestnuts by the time Ernie and Bert came along. But the other option — and this is the one I prefer, myself — is that Ernie’s sense of humor is so perfectly attuned to the young child’s desire to dominate and control that the children of the world instinctively follow his lead.

Because you have to admit that impractical jokes like these are a fairly hostile form of gamesmanship. Ernie’s just humiliating Bert, really, for no good reason at all. In the case of the licorice whips, I suggested that Bert deserved to be treated badly, because he refused to stand up for himself. But in both of these sketches, Bert is suspicious from the start, and he refuses to play the games. In fact, he insists that the games sound stupid and contrived, and they do. He only gives in because Ernie bullies him into it — and then, as soon as the game gets going, Ernie plays his little trick, and Bert is left with egg on his face again.

Now, I’m not going to try to debate the morality of this little exercise. Clearly, there’s no moral justification for Ernie hatching these little humiliation schemes. The thing that I think is interesting is what all this demonstrates about the essentially hostile nature of schoolyard humor.

When you think about it, all the jokes that little kids tell are basically an attempt to trick other people. Riddles, knock-knock jokes, shaggy dog stories… they’re all tiny tricks, ways to surprise and unsettle other people. They’re like little experiments in using language to dominate people, a slightly more subtle version of the “made you look!” game.

Rough-and-tumble play is a way that kids test the limits of their physical powers — how high they can jump, how hard they can push, whether they can run fast enough to get away from someone chasing them. In a similar way, verbal play helps kids test their linguistic and social powers. When they tell jokes and play tricks, kids are testing out how to mislead, how to use words to make yourself stronger and your opponent weaker.

Ernie would never just walk up to Bert and push him down to the ground for no reason, just to laugh at him. Only a bully would push people around like that. But Ernie kind of does the same thing with words here, and somehow that’s okay.

Just like with the licorice whips, there’s an important lesson in here for kids. They don’t have to understand it explicitly, it just speaks directly to some hidden, anti-social desire deep in their selfish little hearts. The Sesame Street Muppets seem so sweet and funny; you’d never know they were feeding your darkest impulses. How’d it taste, Bert?

by Danny Horn

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